Unleashing True Potential with Inspired Purpose

In this episode of The Faces of Business, Tony Martignetti, founder and Chief Inspiration Officer at Inspired Purpose Partners talks about how people can unleash their true potential by finding their purpose.

In this episode of The Faces of Business, Tony Martignetti, founder and Chief Inspiration Officer at Inspired Purpose Partners talks about how people can unleash their true potential by finding their purpose.

With over three decades of cultivating leadership and navigating transformative changes, Tony brings a wealth of knowledge for unlocking the true potential within us all. Tony’s insights offer a beacon for those looking to elevate their thinking, rediscover their passion, and lead from a place of inspired purpose.

From the depths of burnout to pioneering change in leadership development, Tony has harnessed his experiences to mentor others toward finding their inspired purpose. His methodologies are about living a life that’s fully engaged and energized. Recognized as a LinkedIn Top Voice in multiple facets of leadership and executive coaching, Tony’s influence transcends industries, impacting leaders to foster genuine connections and lead with intention.

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Damon welcomes Tony on his show and eagerly anticipates an engaging discussion. He requests Tony to talk about how he started his journey and the motivations behind his dedication to helping others.

Tony metaphorically describes his journey as a Wayfinder navigating uncertainty, transitioning from art to pre-med before pursuing a business career. Despite aligning with his skills, he felt unfulfilled, leading to burnout. Reflecting on his immigrant parents’ work ethic, he values perseverance but relates the need to pivot and work smarter. He reveals that a pivotal moment in a biotech boardroom prompted him to seek alignment with his true self and pursue a more fulfilling path.

Damon seeks Tony’s detailed discussion on the specifics of his transition from feeling fed up in a boardroom to making significant changes in his life.

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Tony describes his transition as a gradual buildup leading to a sudden realization. He recounts moments where he observed concerning attitudes towards leadership, such as viewing employees as replaceable parts, which weighed heavily on him over time. Eventually, a critical moment occurred when he decided to take ownership of his life and responsibilities. In a bold move, he walked out of a boardroom with the determination to change the status quo and improve leadership practices.

Using an analogy of artists working with different mediums, Damon illustrates the necessity of finding alignment between individuals’ skills and the company’s evolving needs. He inquires about Tony’s emphasis on “inspired purpose” and “love” in his work.

The guest shares that his focus on inspiration stems from a personal desire for more meaning and purpose in life. Recognizing the power of inspiration in his journey, particularly in coaching and leadership development, Tony identifies his inspired purpose as helping others find their sources of inspiration. He believes the ripple of inspiration (ROI) can positively impact others and create a contagious sense of connection and purpose.
Damon appreciates the concept of ROI. He reflects on the common questions people may have when seeking a new purpose, inviting Tony to share insights.

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Tony classifies common signs indicating a need for change in individuals’ lives. He often begins by asking about their typical day or week ahead. If they express a lack of excitement or enthusiasm for their routine, it’s a clear indicator that something needs to change. The guest encourages them to imagine creating intentional moments in their week that bring joy and anticipation. These moments don’t have to be extravagant but should genuinely excite them. By reconnecting with what lights them up, Tony aims to reignite their spark and guide them towards a more fulfilling path.

Damon ponders whether there’s a common point in life when individuals undergo this introspection or if it’s simply a matter of whether they’ve discovered their purpose yet.

Tony acknowledges that individuals may discover their purpose at various stages of life, but believes that it’s a dynamic process that may need to be reignited or even change over time. He agrees with Damon’s observation about the increasing frequency of moments of reflection and potential change in people’s lives.

Damon invites Tony’s comments on interacting with various individuals on this topic.

Tony responds with the idea of letting go of preconceived notions and narratives that restrict personal growth. He advises individuals to release tension, take tiny steps towards new goals, and explore alternative paths by expanding their vision while narrowing their focus.

The guest guides his clients through this process, urging them to consider new possibilities and skill applications outside their current roles or fields.

Damon appreciates Tony’s advice.

As the show progresses, Tony further advises listeners to step outside their comfort zone for personal growth, equating it to a cozy blanket that must be shed to expand horizons. He shares a recent conversation where someone realized how success is linked to increasing probabilities by venturing beyond the comfort zone.

Damon expresses eagerness to know more about Tony’s TEDx Talk, titled “Don’t Check Yourself at the Door: How to Share Your True Self.”

In response, Tony draws a connection between his TED Talk and the previous conversation, focusing on the theme of people hiding parts of themselves in the workplace due to fear of judgment. He explains how sharing personal hobbies and passions can lead to deeper connections and understanding among colleagues. Tony shares an example of a client who shared his experience of volunteering at a homeless shelter with an employee, which unexpectedly connected them on a profound level, fostering genuine empathy and mutual appreciation.

Impressed with Tony’s reflections, Damon asks him about the transformations witnessed when individuals fully embrace inspired purpose in their lives.

Tony notes that people tend to feel more at peace and ease, as reflected in his conversations with them. With increased clarity and alignment with their core values, challenges become more manageable, leading to a sense of grounding and calmness even amidst uncertainty.

Toward the show’s conclusion, Tony discusses the concept of “Flashpoints” on his podcast, the Virtual Campfire, referring to pivotal moments in individuals’ journeys that ignite their gifts into the world. These moments, whether positive or negative, shape who we are and can inspire meaningful changes in our lives. He further reveals that he has discussed similar ideas in his book, Campfire Lessons for Leaders: How Uncovering Our Past Can Propel Us Forward.

The show ends with Damon thanking Tony for his time.

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Tony Martignetti, Damon Pistulka

Damon Pistulka 00:03
All right, everyone, welcome once again the faces of business. I am your host, Damon Pistulka. And I am so excited for our guests today because we have Tony Martin Edie, talking about unleashing True Potential with inspired purpose. Tony, thanks for being here today.

Tony Martignetti 00:21
I’m thrilled to be here. You know, I’ve been following you for so long now that I’m thrilled to finally be in this space with you today. We’re

Damon Pistulka 00:31
gonna have fun, man, we’re gonna have fun, because there’s very few things I like to talk more about, than in getting inspiration. Yeah, so good stuff. So let’s, Tony, we always like to back up and go, How did Tony get to where Tony is today? What drove you to really help people find their inspiration and purpose?

Tony Martignetti 01:00
Yeah, I’ll start by just saying that if there was a movie made of my life, it would be called the, the last path of a Wayfinder. Because I think most of my life, I felt like I was lost, figuring it out, trying to figure out where I belonged, and had some fun along the way, but also realized that it wasn’t on the right track. I started my journey as an artist, and still identify as an artist, and then eventually found myself being a pre med student. And, you know, which made a lot of sense, right? Yeah. But then shifted from being in pre med, to getting into business. As a degree, I got a business degree, finally, and then eventually got an MBA, I spent most of my career working as a finance and strategy professional in the high tech, then the biotech industry. So So yeah, go figure, do the math. There’s a lot of things going on there that were very different, but also interconnected. I mean, we have sciences and business coming together in the biotech industry. And the work I was doing was amazing. I got a chance to make a real impact on people’s lives, which is really cool. I had the chance to meet patients who were impacted by the therapeutics we worked on. I did a lot of deals along the way raised money. But of course, I wasn’t doing the work I was meant for. Because I realized as time went on, that I was burning myself out and feeling frustrated, and I couldn’t figure out why.

Damon Pistulka 02:52
Yeah, yeah. It’s was there a point where you just said that I’m done with this? Or I mean, what really was your inflection point when you said, Hey, I gotta find something else. Yeah,

Tony Martignetti 03:09
I mean, there, there is a point that that came, but it was much further along. In my journey. I mean, I, I stuck with things for a long time. I think there’s a sense of commitment that I had to the journey that had me sticking it out and working harder. And I think me, I had this mentality that was instilled in me from my parents. My parents are immigrants. They came from this country, this country. And they had this sense of, you know, if you work hard, you can get anything you want. Right? Yeah. Which is great. And I don’t want to dismiss that, because it’s amazing. But there’s also a sense of realizing, when should you give up? When should you consider, you know, pivoting? And also knowing? When do you need to work smarter about the work you’re doing? So that mentality can be really challenging? So that is a long answer to your question that will lead to this point where I was, you know, really fed up with who I was being and realized it was time for me to make a change. And that all happened in a boardroom. When I was sitting in a biotech boardroom and realizing that I think I was done. I was done doing the work that I was doing and I needed a change. I wanted to live a life that was connect with who I am, and I know I wasn’t doing that. Yeah,

Damon Pistulka 04:32
that that’s awesome. Why don’t I’d say first of all, say hey to Rocky, Rocky Rachid Sorry, I’m butchering your name, but thanks for being here. Really appreciate it. And then we got James James. Great to see you here today, man. James is the industrial coating expert. Not kidding you. You ask him you know, like what you put on the you know, on chips or something crazy like that. And he knows it all. It’s cool, but I I Oh, wow, this is so this is awesome, Tony, because you’re sitting in this boardroom was it like, you know, I listened to Hulk I can’t remember name, you listen to some of these people and they just go, it hit me, it hit me up, I walked out and said I’ve done, you know, what was it? What was the transition that you made? Then did you decide? And overtime and do it slowly? Or how did you really transition into getting out of that?

Tony Martignetti 05:29
Yeah, it was slowly but then all of a sudden, right? Like, there’s, if you know what I mean, there was a build up and over time you start to hear these little things that start to plant the seed for the change. You know, I would hear things like, oh, you know, who cares that they leave? You know, we’ll just replace them. You know, I had the sense of like, treating, you know, leadership in the organization, I was in feeling like, you know, people are just like cartridges. You can toner cartridges you can replace on a printer. And I was like, wow, like, that’s, that’s not fair. I mean, this is these people come to work every day. They work hard. And they they want to be driven by a purpose. And you can’t just talk about them like they’re just the replaceable parts. Yeah. Yeah. So a lot of that lead up started to weigh on me, it starts to become more evidence and things that I’m taking in. And then that moment really came all the sudden where I said, Okay, I think this is it, this is the moment for me to start taking ownership of my life, and ownership of my responsibility, which is to, to literally, and this is where the moment really came to is I decided to walk out, I just got up and walked out and said to myself, that I’m going to leave this room to change this room. And I don’t know how I’m going to do it. But I’m going to figure out a way to change the way leaders show up to ensure that they’re inspiring, but also they’re being real with people that they understand the power of, you know, being a leader in what it means and the responsibility that comes with that.

Damon Pistulka 07:13
Yeah, yeah, that’s huge. You You had said something here a little a little bit back in the conversation there when you were talking about people, and it doesn’t matter if they leave, we’ll just replace them. And I mean, I think in the work that that I get to do blessed to be able to do with some of my clients, you know, there’s a lot of change going on. And sometimes there’s a difference between treating people like a number that you’re just going to interchange and put them in. And, and someone that your business is going a direction, and they’re just not. They don’t want to go that way. And it’s time to help them get off the bus. I think there’s two different things. But man, corporations that don’t value there people now are they’re dying, and they don’t even know it. I don’t care how big you are. Because it’s just, it needs to hear you just to hear a lot more. Maybe still hear at some, but it’s hopefully much, much less. Because every business it doesn’t matter if you’ve got one employee or 5000 depend on employees or 50,000 or 100,000. It depends on the people.

Tony Martignetti 08:27
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that’s let’s be honest, that’s what businesses are, they’re made of people. And the relationships that are inside of them. There’s a quote that I love sharing, it comes from Judith leisure, is that the the quality of our culture is based on the quality of our of our relationships, in our relationships are based on the quality of our conversations. And so if you think about that, you take it down to that level, is that what kind of conversations you having with the people around you? Are they authentic and real? Are they meaningful? Are they you know, being honest with each other? In an honest conversations don’t have to be necessarily sugar coated mean on like, you know, oh, we’re not going to, you know, let you go or we’re going to keep you on forever. You’d have to say that because that’s not true. What you can say is, here’s what’s going on, and that says, This is what I can tell you. Because that’s all I know.

Damon Pistulka 09:27
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it’s I you know, I run into a situation and in some of the work that we do, where companies are pivoting, right, and when you have to pivot, it’s, it’s sometime I believe, more I don’t even I’m searching for the right words, is when you when you just sit down and say, Hey, Tony, I know this is not the way you want to go. I just want to confirm that with you. Because if it is there’s a there’s a better plan. For you, it’s just not here now. Yeah. And you’re talented, and you’re good at what you do. And it’s just not here now, because we’re, we’re going this way. And we’re a, you know, we’re an artist, but we’re going to be in metal, and you’re a wood artist, right? It just doesn’t work together. Your medium is wood. It’s just like, we know, all the trees are gone. We’re not going to do that anymore. Yeah,

Tony Martignetti 10:24
I love that you say that. Because there’s, I mean, I’ve been through that moment before. And at first, it’s always going to be painful. I mean, there’s an element of change is always, you know, if it comes as a as a surprise to you, it’s always going to be a little bit of a shock. But I’ve had that moment when you know, the exact same thing you described of, like, we’re not able to give you what you want here. And so in that interest, we are, you know, we want to make sure that you can have the freedom to go do what you need to do, and we’re let go let you go. And at first, it feels like, oh, they don’t want you. They don’t want me, why don’t they want me? And then you realize, no, they’re they’re trying to help you. Yeah. And when you see it from that angle, it’s helpful. Now, it’s not all the situations are like that. But when you realize that you’ve been, you know, you have a chance to now reinvent, re you know, recreate yourself. That’s a whole different reframe that you can take from this powerful.

Damon Pistulka 11:24
Yeah. Well, you you speak of some big terms, when you talk about inspired purpose, love inspired purpose. Love it. What really got you to focus in on those words and help people find inspired purpose.

Tony Martignetti 11:48
It’s such a great question. I love this. Because, you know, I see it as a double edged sword. For me, well, not double edge. But like, first of all, if we think about it from a personal level, I realized that inspiration was at the core of a lot of the things that I cared about, you know, this, you know, I wanted more inspiration in my life. And I wanted to see that spark come back to my life at that moment when I was really feeling listless. And I felt like this connection to being at the time coaching and leadership development and helping leaders, I realized that was my inspired purpose is to do that work. And then realizing that’s also what I’m going to do for others, is to help them to connect with that purpose that they really want to be inspired by every day. And how that will have an impact of ripple on others often say, but the ROI, the reason, the ripple of inspiration that you can have on others, when you’re inspired, others get that that connection from you, and it becomes contagious. So yeah.

Damon Pistulka 13:06
I love that ROI. Yeah, it’s a good referral of inspiration. Because when you just when you use when you talk to inspired people, it’s contagious. Absolutely. It’s contagious. That’s so cool. So you got a lot of questions. It’s obviously a lot of questions. So when you start talking to someone, they come and talk to you they go, Tony, I just don’t know what’s going on. I mean, what are some of the common things that you hear? So if someone’s listening today, they go, Hey, maybe maybe I do need to look at finding a different purpose. Yeah. So what are some of those things that they’re going to they’re going to bring up? When you’re in there and go, you’re going to hear them say they’re going to talk about work life, different things that you’re going to hear them say? Yeah,

Tony Martignetti 14:08
I mean, there’s a lot of different. There’s a range of things that I see in people. One of the things I’ll ask to really get a feeler for this is to say, like, Well, tell me about what, what your typical day looks like or what your week ahead, what is your next week look like? And if they say like, you know, yeah, it’s just a lot of meetings, nothing really exciting, nothing that I’m looking forward to, you know, a lot of this blog, just you can feel it in the voice of like this sense of, gosh, I could literally sleep through next week and not feel like I missed anything. And if you start to feel that way, or like that they prefer to sleep through next weekend and in value better for them. Yeah. Then you know, you’ve got somebody who’s got they’re on the verge of something that needs to change. And I started to have them think well, what would it look like if you start to create something with intention that at least has one thing in your week that you can look forward to? You know, what would it look like? What would you want that to be? You know, what would make this next week or the next day? A little more exciting for you? And it doesn’t mean it has to be like, Oh, I’m going to be I’d be jet skiing across like, the, you know, I don’t know, the bay or what have you or surfing somewhere? Because that’s, you know, might be nice if you’re close. But if you’re, you know, sitting in Alaska, you’re not gonna be, you know, jet skiing across, you know, California bay or something. I don’t know. Yeah. Anyways, so long story short, I mean, I want to help them to get connected to what are the things that do light them up? What’s going to bring that spark back? Because if they’ve lost that spark, I want them to kind of re ignite that by first thinking about what it is that does get them excited? Because sometimes we just lose it. We because we’re stuck. Yeah, yeah.

Damon Pistulka 16:09
Well, I think, do you see that people as they go through life, I mean, there’s definitely we all know their stages when we’re in our 20s and 30s, and 40s. And if you have a family, and you’re raising kids and doing different things, do you think that it hits people at at a common point in life where they really go? Or is it doesn’t really matter? It’s just if you found it yet or not?

Tony Martignetti 16:34
Yeah, well, I mean, you may find your purpose at different points in your life, but it also has to be reignited, and maybe potentially, you know, it changes. So I think you’re absolutely right, there’s, you know, we used to always think about the midlife crisis, but I think there’s more more crisis that we face. In fact, they’re happening more frequently, because we want more meaning out of our lives. And I think we’ve ever expected we wanted people were having in in the 20s they’re having in their 30s they’re having in their 40s and beyond, and and we’re expecting more out of our life. And I think that has us, oftentimes questioning, okay, is this job I’m in, you know, the right job? And, you know, is it time for a pivot? Is it time for a change? And that’s why you see a lot more movement to?

Damon Pistulka 17:28
That’s a good point, because it is, I mean, you just think about your life or my life, how what we thought our purpose was at the time has changed over the years, because at 20, it’s much different than 30 or 40, or whatever. So what are the some of the things you’ve really learned now that you talk a lot of people doing this, that you see it, you just go, wow, I never thought of that before?

Tony Martignetti 17:55
Yeah, well, first of all, that we’re capable of so many amazing things, if we just get out of our own way, and let go of holding on so tightly. You know, we hold on so tightly to the ideals that we’ve gotten in our heads, that narrative. You know, oftentimes, we get into these fields and say, like, this is how I need to show up, this is how, what I need to do to get that promotion to do that thing. And then when you really let go of all that, and let go of all that tension and start to kind of lean into, oh, I don’t really need to do all that I don’t know why I thought that was important. Maybe there’s something else that’s more important that I could lean into. Which leads me to something that I do a lot with my clients, and with people in general, I talk about this idea of expanding your vision, and narrowing your focus, which is one of the best tools to think about, what’s possible for you is stop looking at the same wall and start to look to the left and to the right, and up into the sky and all the all around you and see what else is available to you. Because we’re always thinking in the same way, we have to sometimes step back and look differently, and say, What else could I do? If I’ve always been doing? Let’s just use the example of if I was a scientist, a bio biotech scientist, like a clinical science, and that’s what I did. I worked in a lab, that’s what I do, okay? Just thinking about the skill sets, you’ve learned to be able to be successful in that field. You could take those skill sets and apply them in another field. You could apply them in a different role. And you just have to be able to expand your ability to see that, that other idea. And so taking the taking those ideas and bringing them out but then narrowing down and seeing what is the next step I could Try to take and that might mean a conversation. It could mean, you know, just, you know, learning more about that field. Little things that could open up the door for something else.

Damon Pistulka 20:13
Yeah, yeah, that’s awesome. And you’re on your website, you talk about three lessons, yes, might be a good, good time to talk about this. And they all start with break the pattern. I love that because, you know, we get so used to our patterns, we may not even realize it, but we drive the same. Go into work, we walk the same walk on walk, and sometimes so much. So we don’t even realize how habitual we are in doing that thing. So I love that you start with break the pattern. And the first one, you say, take one tiny step towards a new goal and see what happens.

Tony Martignetti 20:51
Yeah, that’s exactly it. Yeah, I mean, just taking that one step is going to make a big difference. Because you know, what you’ll learn from that one step will will give you enough information to figure out if you want to take another or if you feel like there’s a different path you want to take. You know, one of the things that I this comes back to my prior life of in finance, where you take measured risk, right? Measured risk is, is you’re not betting the farm on that one step. All you’re doing is you’re you know, you’re taking a risk, maybe, but it’s not a risk that is so severe that it’s going to put you at risk of, of, you know, you’re losing your current job, or you’re, you know, you’re doing something that’s going to to be severe. So the small step. Yeah.

Damon Pistulka 21:44
Yeah, that’s great. Because you know, it is, and I think people, like I said, we get so habitual on what we do, we don’t realize that that little step out, even if it’s as simple as I walked to work this way, all the time, by taking a different route to work and seeing what you see. Exactly, exactly. Just those little things. That’s great. Take one tiny, tiny step towards a new goal and see what happens. And then you go on to say, after many steps, you’ll eventually achieve your goal. And I love that part of it. The second one is, and we hear this a lot, but I want to hear it from you. And you can say break the pattern again, life begins outside of your comfort zone. Yeah.

Tony Martignetti 22:27
Yeah, I mean, there’s no doubt about it, you know, the comfort zone is, is that place that feels like a warm blanket. But the reality is, if you want to grow, you have to let go of that comfort zone. And, and that’s where you get into those places where, you know, you’re trying things that are going to give you opportunities to really expand, I recently had a conversation with somebody, and she shared, you know, that what made her successful is that she increased her probabilities by getting out of our comfort comfort zone, I love that. It’s increasing your probabilities, which means just getting out there and trying new things. Gives you an increase of the probabilities of

Damon Pistulka 23:13
success. Yeah, it does. So I just love you know, the comfort zone, you hear people talk about law all the time talking about comfort zone. And we, we talk about it, but we don’t really think about it mean, our comfort zone is I eat the same food is that basic, right? It’s like what you know, is you can break out of your comfort zone there, you can break out of your comfort zone in so many different ways. But when we look at it, it just don’t see people that live inside that comfort zone. I don’t think anyway, they can’t really find the happiness that people that do put that extra little bit of risk in what they do to really see if I can or why will it work? Yeah,

Tony Martignetti 24:03
yeah. If you don’t, if you don’t go you’ll never know, as you know, that’s what you need to try. You don’t want to live with regret, which, you know, if you if you stay in the comfort zone, oftentimes you have this sense of like, yes, I want to want to like to write a book or to be you know, to speak on stage or to whatever to start that company that I wanted to start. Yeah,

Damon Pistulka 24:28
yeah, that’s, that’s for sure. And, and if we get those, get those off the off the docket right away, they you don’t have to, you know, you can see if you like it or not, and I

Tony Martignetti 24:39
think the key part of this is you can be imperfect about it too. You don’t have to be so you know, not everything out of the gates is perfect. So yeah, that’s,

Damon Pistulka 24:48
that’s for sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we’re not going to be perfect in this stuff we’re doing so your third one. Look for the pattern. Watch for signs of what light you up and do more of that. Yeah,

Tony Martignetti 25:02
yeah, it’s exactly I mean, comes back to this idea of like, inspiration is like almost the communication. This is where you’re going to be like, Okay, that’s really weird. But like, inspiration is a communication with your soul’s purpose. And the reason that is, is because it’s like their little sparks of, of insights, the things that light you up, are the things that are making you come alive. And they’re telling you something, they’re insights that you should be paying attention to. So every time you have a conversation about a topic that gets you all excited, you know, let’s say that you’re an enthusiast of, you know, I don’t know, model trains have just put it out there. If you get excited about that, then maybe you should spend more time thinking about why it is you get excited about that. And not to say that, like, you know, maybe that’s your future job, but maybe, you know, and don’t ignore it, because maybe there is something there that you should be considering. Whatever it is that lights you up, pay attention to, and do more of that. Follow those threads.

Damon Pistulka 26:21
We’re going to talk about this more, I want to talk yeah, we got to do this. We were down this road. But I do want to ask you a couple other questions before we go back into this? Because really, I think this is this is something that absolutely everyone can do. If you want to just sit back and look at your life and go okay, what do I really, really, really enjoy about it? It’s, it’s not that difficult. And it’s something that anyone could do. Yeah, because there’s, there’s so many things. But I was you did a TEDx talk? Yeah. And what? What really? You said, Don’t check yourself at the door? Yeah. What what did you really want to communicate in your TEDx talk? It’s

Tony Martignetti 27:09
an interesting thing, when you when you put that TED talk next to what we just talked about, it’s really an interesting connection. Because, you know, what I was talking about there is that a lot of people hide parts of who they are. In, in the workplace, you know, because they’re afraid of what people will think, you know, they may think that, you know, well, I’m not leadership material, or, you know, they may think I’m awkward or weird, or whatever it may be, that might hold them back. I mean, sometimes it’s the severe stuff, like, you know, trans transgender or things like that, you know, that’s not that that’s severe. I’m just saying, like, you know, the things that are more that are people are really judged about.

Damon Pistulka 27:51
Yeah. Up to level a little bit. Yeah, yeah. But

Tony Martignetti 27:56
the reason why I wanted to connect it to the last conversation is because I think it’s sometimes it’s as simple things like the hobbies and things that light us up, that we need to share with other people. And what happens is, when we do that, they get to see us more fully, and we get to celebrate each other, we get a, we get a door into their into each other’s lives. You know, this happened, because I had a few clients who shared with me, when I started to ask them questions about like, what are some things you do on you know, what did you do this weekend? How did you, you know, what makes you come alive? And, you know, they started to share some of these things with me. And I was like, wow, have you ever shared that with your, with your team? And they’re like, Well, I never have. So one particular example is, I had a client who donated his time at a homeless shelter, just if you love giving back, he loved spending time with other people. And he shared that with one of his employees, not not like a bragging way, but just in a very nonchalant way. And, and when he realizes that that person he was talking to was homeless as a child, and that can that conversation, connected them at a level that you just can’t manufacture. Yeah. And she cried. And she said that my I can’t believe that. That’s so amazing that you do that. Because that’s, you know, I spent a lot of time in homeless shelters as a child. So, that’s beautiful.

Damon Pistulka 29:25
That’s amazing. That’s amazing. Because I, you know, caught me right off the bat, because don’t check yourself at the door. You know, I grew up in an age where you, you were supposed to check yourself 100% A year you were 100% in the in the 90s and 2000, early 2000s. That’s what you were supposed to do check your personal stuff at the door and it’s not there. And, and I’m so glad that we’ve in the last decade, we’ve really changed that and even more so because those kinds of interactions like you just talked about wouldn’t have happened then. And the relationships that are being being formed because we’re coming in, we’re talking about what we do doesn’t mean that we have to be friends outside of work. It’s just like, I have these hobbies, and I’m doing them and it lets them see people as people. And yeah, in

Tony Martignetti 30:20
to take this to the next level, which is exactly where, you know, I’ve taken it to the next level, I guess, is a, the idea that like we having connections with other people in the workplace is such an important aspect of, of getting the things that a lot of companies want, which is results, they went on vacation, they want an impact, the best way to get there is to have people on in the organization, feeling like they care about each other, feeling connected to each other, and knowing each other, if they feel like the person next to them on the Zoom channel, or in in even in person, if that’s the case, if someone’s a stranger, or is this some person that they see on occasion, but they really don’t know anything about their background, who they are, then it’s hard for them to go to bat for the for each other. Or do you want to go to bat for each other?

Damon Pistulka 31:18
Sorry about that. I had some that jumped in my electronics here and it caught it cause a little I was like, what, what’s happening here? Now? I really sorry. But yeah, it’s just so it because this is this really to me. Not checking yourself at the door, building these deep connections. I mean, take a look at any any sports team, any highest performing business team, and they are connected at a level. That’s above talent. Yeah, it’s above talent, because talent gets you so far. But that connection, so everybody is working at that level that no one else me that doesn’t have that connection? won’t even consider doing. Those are the teams that really just dominate.

Tony Martignetti 32:07
Yeah, I mean, you can see it like remember the old stories, the old, you know, the the bowls when they would sit down and they would be meditating together. And like, these really strange things that for the most part, you think like, That’s the weirdest thing. But that’s they do these things, because they know that the more that they are in tune with each other, then the better they’re going to perform. Yeah,

Damon Pistulka 32:30
mystery. That is a great example too. By the way, if someone that listen to this, that do you haven’t, if you haven’t gone back and learn what the Chicago Bulls are doing back in their heyday, years, you need to because it’s really something when you look at how they were building the team together and what they were doing and how they pushed each other to be better. It was it’s really something

Tony Martignetti 32:50
it’s, it was a remarkable story. Yeah. Oh,

Damon Pistulka 32:52
yes, yes. So when when you see this happening, and people start doing this? Do your clients and their teams talk about the results that they see over time after they they start doing this? Well,

Tony Martignetti 33:08
first of all, it starts pretty quickly in the sense of like, you know, the emotional connection, they start to see when they’re in the room, and they start to feel wow, like, I didn’t know that about you, or, you know, there’s things about you that I hadn’t known because you didn’t share. And, you know, it starts to break down these walls. So that it starts to be almost immediate, once they start getting in that space. And then one over time, you know, as I start to check in with him and say, what, what is opening up for you and the team as you’ve had these sharing sessions, and these times together, they’ve come back and said, Well, it just feels like we just had a cohesiveness that just is just infectious. It’s almost like, we can feel the impact of it, and they start to see results, they start to see that the team can get more done in less time. And they’re able to see the impact of the you know, from an innovative perspective. Now, it’s hard for me to correlate that all with what we’ve done together. But, you know, I like to think that that’s really strongly correlated with what we’ve been doing. Seems like it so

Damon Pistulka 34:19
well. I mean, when you get people I mean, just building those deeper relationships is really what it’s about. Again, you go back to so many situations in business and life and sports, if you just look at anything band, it doesn’t matter in orchestra, it doesn’t matter when there’s people that are working together, the better relationships they have, the better relationships their leaders have with them, the better they perform, it’s just the way it is.

Tony Martignetti 34:47
Yeah, I don’t want to just take a moment to go back for a second because we didn’t talk about this but when when I wrote my my latest book, campfire lessons for leaders, one of the things I also tuned into is this idea that that we have to get to know ourselves first before we can open the aperture to others. And so I think that’s another part of this, you know, connecting with ourselves in our narrative of like really getting to know, us, makes us much better at connecting with others. So that’s another part of the story we should just be aware of.

Damon Pistulka 35:22
Yeah, yeah. No doubt. And that. That is. So I’m sure that’s, well, you start people there, I’m sure before they work with their teams, as we’ve talked about earlier, but it is important. I mean, I don’t think that you’re gonna be able to go outside without looking inside first.

Tony Martignetti 35:39
Yeah. Yes.

Damon Pistulka 35:41
Oh, man. So good. So good talking with you. So if if we’re sitting here today, and we’re going, Wow, what? What does? What does my life look like? If I have, if I really can pull inspired purpose into my life? When you see people really embrace it? What do you see what kind of transformations Do you see? Yeah,

Tony Martignetti 36:10
I mean, there’s one thing about it is that people feel a little bit more at peace. And I don’t mean to say like, everyone’s sitting around on a pillow, and that’s eating, but they’re a little more at ease. And this is something that has been reflected back to me through the conversations is that a lot of tension gets built up when we feel like we’re missing something, or that there’s a component we’re trying hard to get, right. But when you’ve started to have clarity, and you start to be more aligned with what it is that you’re all about, things become a little easier to get to. Yeah, so there’s a peace is almost like a peace of mind. I call it grounding. Because you feel like you’re grounded in your presence. It just feels like you can remain calm. And even when things are not known, you know that you’ll figure it out.

Damon Pistulka 37:09
Yeah, yeah. And I’ve got to believe that, when you really feel like you’re doing what, you know, at least today, this is where I really meant to be. This is why I really am meant to do that. There just an inherent amount of happiness from that, by knowing that and doing it. Exactly,

Tony Martignetti 37:34
exactly. When it’s not just happiness, I will just say, I always say this because I love happiness. Don’t get me wrong. But happiness is a fleeting emotion. fulfillment is what we’re after. There you go. Yeah, we want something that lasts, we want something that’s going to take us to a deeper sense of connection to, you know, satisfaction, if you will. Yeah.

Damon Pistulka 38:01
That’s awesome. So do you think that when people really find, as we talked about today, and you know, unleashing your your true potential with inspired purpose, like we’re talking today, when people find their inspired purpose when they find that, and they really get into it? Do you think that things like burnout, and, and frustration and those kinds of things kind of subside? Just because we’re we’re more we’re more aligned with who we we at that time are meant to be? And things like that?

Tony Martignetti 38:45
Well, things have those things still happen, but we’re more aware of it, and we can fight against it. We have resilience when we are because we what happens is and let me let me give you an explanation as to what I mean by that, is that, you know, the world is challenging it, there’s no doubt about it. And, and there’s always new challenges to be faced, and some things are really out of our control. Let’s say most things really, yeah. But the key thing is you have to figure out how you want to react to them. And when you know that you’re reacting from a place of you know what you value, you know, what you’re aiming to create in the world, then you have a place to come back to, you know what you’re coming back to. If you haven’t really thought about the things that really are your ground, your place you’re coming from, then what happens is you start to become more reactionary or panicky, because it’s like you’ve you’ve got no tether

Damon Pistulka 39:44
Yeah, yeah. Sometimes

Tony Martignetti 39:46
people think of tether being like that’s a bad thing. You were like tethered to the ground. That’s not good. But you need a place that feels like home to you. And that home has to be inside of you. You carry with you

Damon Pistulka 39:59
Yeah, yeah. Because when you’re, when you’re finding that, when you find that inspired purpose, you’re going to have challenges, there’s going to be frustrations, and there’s going to be successes and failures. But when it’s your honor, you feel you’re on the right path. It does, I have to believe give you that resilience that allows you to go okay, we got knocked down today. But let’s get back up. Because we know tomorrow we’re going in the right direction.

Tony Martignetti 40:26
Yeah. Because we know where we want it to be. We know what we’re here for. And we know that, you know, these are the things that we need to get back onto. And that’s, it’s okay. And this is, you know, an opportunity to get it right again.

Damon Pistulka 40:41
I got a weird question for you. Go for it. How many people you think walking around us today really have any idea what their purpose is? Or feel about their fallen their inspired purpose? God? That’s

Tony Martignetti 40:54
a great question. It really is. I mean, I because I would have to say that it’s, you know, if we were to look at the total population, it’s it’s got to be less than a quarter of the people on the planet, which is sad.

Damon Pistulka 41:10
It is. Yeah, it is. Yeah. And it just, yeah, it it is sad. And it’s too bad. Because it’s it changes lives. Yeah.

Tony Martignetti 41:23
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you’re connected with your purpose in you know, it’s like I said earlier, there’s a sense of connection that you create with others. It’s the impact that you have on others. And I think that’s what we need more of, we need more people who are doing the work, so that they can have an impact on other people.

Damon Pistulka 41:45
Yeah. So what have I not asked you today? What am I not asked you today that we go holy? Heck, we should have talked about that.

Tony Martignetti 41:55
Oh, man, it’s a good question. Well, let’s talk about the the Flashpoint idea. Oh, yeah, flash points. So, in my podcasts, we I talked about this idea. It’s called the Virtual campfire. By the way, there’s this concept that I always bring my guests through, which is, you know, what is the point in your journey that is ignited your gifts into the world? It’s called the Flashpoint. Yeah. And, honestly, there’s some people have a problem with the fact that it’s a gift that you that you have to like you can develop that gift to its Well, the way I mean by this is there’s a sense of like, a moment along the way that all of a sudden, we get ignited by that our life has changed forever because of this moment. And what I tend to think is that a lot of us don’t really know what those are. Or don’t really spend enough time thinking about what does that truly mean for me. And so I think it’s important sometimes for us to go back and look at the past in that lens and say, Okay, what were the moments that made me who I am, you know, whether it’d be good or bad, it could be a dark moment. You know, a lot of people have said, like, well, you know, for me, it was, you know, being diagnosed with cancer and realizing that life is fragile, and God knows, you know, I don’t know where I’m going to be next. I don’t know how much life I have left live. So you know, then when I, you know, realized that I got a clean bill of health after getting chemotherapy, then I wanted to do something more meaningful with my life. Yeah, that’s a great Flashpoint flash.

Damon Pistulka 43:41
I love that. I love that love how you describe it, because we should we should embrace a life. I think even the even even crappy ones when we let go back and look at them. The tough ones are, are still beneficial to us when we when we go back and look at what we really learned from them. Yeah, that’s that’s awesome. Because I just going back and seeing those you’re going to appreciate the opportunities, you’ve had to really experience some things that can their life changing?

Tony Martignetti 44:13
Well, in only that, but it also gives you more clarity about why you do what you do. Yeah. Yeah.

Damon Pistulka 44:20
Good stuff, man. Because Tony, it’s been it’s so great talking to you today, man. I just, I I really appreciate you stopping by and talking with us here on the face of the business and let’s let’s do that. So, the last book you wrote, I did, I forgot to mention it. What’s the title of your book?

Tony Martignetti 44:40
It’s called campfire lessons for leaders how uncovering your past can propel you forward.

Damon Pistulka 44:45
There you go. Campfire lessons for leaders. How uncovering your pet covering your password propel you forward. Yeah, that’s awesome. That’s awesome. Any new we got the podcast too. And what’s the name of the podcast? The Virtual campfire, virtual campfire wanted to make sure we got that again. And if people want to get a hold up, Tony, what’s the best way for them to do that? I

Tony Martignetti 45:09
think the best place is to go to my website, I purpose partners.com. And there you can find all types of fun things, including my podcasts, my books and everything else. Awesome. And LinkedIn Of course. Yeah, yeah.

Damon Pistulka 45:23
Yes. Well, Tony Martin Nettie, thanks for stopping by today we were talking about unleashing True Potential with inspired purpose.

Tony Martignetti 45:33
Absolutely. Thank you so much.

Damon Pistulka 45:37
Well, I just I just reflecting for a moment because it was so much fun to be here with you today and learned a lot learned a lot. I want to thank the people that that dropped comments in your day and all of you that are listening and don’t comment. I appreciate you. This love that you’re able to tune in every week. And Tony, thanks once again for being here. You’re so awesome. Awesome, awesome stuff. And we’ll be back again later. Have a great night everyone. And we’ll talk soon and Tony hang out and we’ll finish up off the air.


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